JH:
I obviously really appreciated the time you took making
sure the opening credits and hour-cycle credits looked
extremely professional, as this is one place a lot of
Indie filmmakers ignore. You ended up using Manhattan-based
Coda VFX to do these credits as well as the rest
of the visual effects in your film. How did you hook up
with them?
TI:
They were introduced to me by our first composer. You
may not know this, but Limbo had another score
initially, and that composer put us in touch with his
friend who was the producer at CODA. Unfortunately, we
parted ways with that composer and got a new one who re-scored
the entire film (the score in the film now). That was
a major hiccup in the post production of Limbo
and it stalled us for months. In fact we were set back
almost half a year, if not more.
JH:
I understand what that's like. One of my early films had
a verbal agreement on music from an artist and then, after
we had the music edited into the film, he decided to start
demanding the moon. In the end, we had to scrap his music
and find different music, which all led to the film stalling
for months in post, as well. Goes to show you that getting
things in writing ahead of time is always a necessity.
That's one of the reasons we've gone to such lengths to
put in a section to help filmmakers find reliable musicians
and composers.
Now,
we've talked about this some in emails and whatnot, but
for the sake of our audience, why don't you tell us how
you ended up getting Scott Brock, Dan Sable, and Bob Chefalas,
who had experience working on movies like the Aviator,
Gangs of New York, and many others?
TI:
Scott is Thelma Schoonmaker's assistant editor and has
been for over a decade, since the first film he worked
on with her [was] Casino. He answered an ad we
had on the Internet, he read the script and liked it so
much he came in for an interview for the job. By then,
we had let one editor go, and another had walked out on
us, so we were desperate. At the time I was actually editing
the movie myself. I did the Limbo rough cut, and
it was almost three hours long! Scott came on board, we
were shocked he did, and even more amazed at how hard
he worked on the film at the same time as working on Aviator.
The guy didn't sleep. He introduced me to Dan Sable who
he had worked with on a Woody Allen movie.
I
read Dan's IMDB credits and I was stunned. He was supervising
sound editor on over 70 films from the 60's with directors
like DePalma, Woody Allen, Demme, DeNiro, Ron Howard on
classics like Carrie, Obsession, A Bronx Tale, Apollo
13 and The Untouchables. He asked for a dvd
to watch to make a decision on. He had retired so he was
doing it for fun and enjoyment. He liked it and joined
the team. Honestly this guy is unbelievable. A lot of
the sound you hear in the movie he made FROM SCRATCH.
From coughs, to foot steps to rustles and car noises and
ambience. Things you don't notice, but make the film feel
smooth. He contacted Soundtrack in Manhattan and we got
Bob Chefalas to mix the film there for us. He [audio]
engineered on The Manchurian Candidate and Cinderella
Man. I think the biggest trip was looking at the calendar
at the mix studio and seeing the schedule. It read I think,
Manchurian Candidate, Limbo, Aviator and She
Hate Me which was mixing in the next room while we
were in the other. It was all luck, fortune and a good
script that got us that far. I was very lucky.
JH:
How are things progressing with your negotiations with
distributors?
TI:
Agh, it's okay. Most people in the business side of things
don't know what to make of the film. We had a hell of
a time getting into festivals. A lot of them said 'your
film just doesn't fit our lineup.' Reviews have been amazing.
I think we've made staff or editor's pick on about three
or so sites and have gotten wonderful response from all
reviewers. We sent the movie to them cold so we are happy
that they simply liked it with no previous knowledge of
my work (I don't have any!). We are negotiating with one
distributor now and the film will hopefully be out in
the first few months of 2006 in North America at least.
What we need is underground support. We think this can
be a cult film and it is very niche. Word of mouth will
take it a long way, and I am glad the people I made it
for are the ones who like it the most. Mid twenties to
adult males who Google, play video games, sit on couches
watching movies and can quote lines from Scarface,
Godfather, Hitchcock, Schwarzenneger, Stallone and
wonder what happened to all the mind bending films that
used to make up the bread and butter of film fare in the
old days. Everyone else is more than welcome to love Limbo
too of course! (I'm an equal opportunity filmmaker).
JH:
Well, our site plans to start working with grass-roots
distributors as well as more national distributors, so
I'll let you know if we can't give you a hand with that
down the road.
With
that said, do you have plans for another feature yet?
TI:
I am in production of my next film now. It is a documentary/film
and will be finished in early to mid 2006.
JH:
Any insight on things you'll be doing the same in this
upcoming film? Any things you'll be doing differently?
TI:
This is a doc/film so it is quite different. Once that
is done, I will probably work on my next narrative/fiction
project. It will be a horror/thriller about religious
fundamentalism. I like talking about the human condition
and questioning what it is that makes us human and motivates
us to act. This next film will continue that debate that
I started in my first film. If you thought Limbo
was disturbing, this will blow your mind. Just thinking
about the story makes me nervous
JH:
I love films that make the filmmaker nervous. If you're
not working on something that has the potential to scare
you, then I think you're not pushing yourself. I personally
believe that choices of faith must be worked through by
each person with serious soul searching and a desire to
actually discover Truth, not just accepted because of
what one's parents chose to believe. As such, I look forward
to seeing what you're able to pull off with your cinematic
eye into this topic.
With
that said, do you have any advice for first time directors
out there?
TI:
Don't be dissuaded by nay-sayers. Often they just don't
have the guts to try to do what you're doing and want
to see you fail so they can feel better about their inadequacy.
Work hard, stay true to the art and just do it. Make the
movie, good, bad or in between. At least you will learn
from the experience. Sitting around waiting for that big
opportunity is a waste of time and it probably will never
come. Spending thousands at film schools etc helps some,
but most get lost in the shuffle. Credentials are for
some folks but that just makes it easier to lose grip
on why you should make films. Expression of yourself and
your experience as a person. You can control your future
in the business to an extent, and that starts with actually
having a product to work with and show, and one that you
can call your own.
JH:
Good advice. Thomas, thank you for the interview and keep
in touch. I look forward to seeing your future work!
God
bless!